Posts Tagged ‘UPenn’

beer-pongI got another round of questions from a reader, to which I’ve responded below:

1. When talking to a graduate of Columbia University (and former professor there) , I asked if he knew any students or taught any students that were/are struggling with depression and he said there was not ONE graduate student he knew that didn’t suffer from both. He says grad school was a “cavalcade of misery, at least for the first three years”. He says he does not know this to be true of undergrad students attending elite schools. Do you believe this to be true?

Could be. I don’t have a graduate degree myself, so I can’t attest to the difficulty of getting one. It seems like PhD programs often get a bad rap (I remember reading a tongue-in-cheek article on the lifestyle of PhD students entitled “So You’ve Chosen to Ruin Your Life”), but I don’t know how dependent it is on the specific school attended. I’m guessing it varies a lot.

As far as intensity of undergrad coursework is concerned, I think it depends heavily on what you study, and I’m guessing the same is true in grad school as well. I found Duke to be an intense and draining experience, but that’s probably because I was pre-med (and a science major) so many of my courses had heavy workloads and were graded on a curve. And since medicine tends to attract some of the best and brightest at the university, I was competing with an above-average demographic for a limited number of A’s, and many of the top students seemed to do nothing but study. If I had pursued sociology or art history instead, I would probably have a very different perspective. Then again, I don’t think Duke is as famous for grade inflation as many of the Ivies are, so the challenge probably varies quite a lot from place to place as well as from program to program.



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After receiving a submission from someone saying he had never met an unemployed Ivy Leaguer, I felt compelled to find more stories of graduates of elite universities who can’t find work. Turns out, it’s not difficult… the more I look, the more I find. Below are about 35 more articles chronicling cases of unemployment, underemployment, poverty, insurmountable debt, and general shock-and-awe stories coming from graduates of top-tier universities.

A new Stanford grad on food stamps

Yale grad: “Turns Out My Ivy League Education Is Worth Squat”

Columbia grad: “$60,000 Ivy League Degree Was Just a Pyramid Scheme”

55-year-old Dartmouth graduate is unemployed and homeless

Harvard Grad Seeks Babysitting Jobs

Princeton grad works at a video store

Dartmouth grad – “Ivy Leaguer Shocked By Likely Future As Burger Flipper”

Stanford grad, unemployed and living with parents, reflects on his first year after graduation

Yale, Penn, George Washington University sue graduates over loan debts that they can’t pay back

Stanford Law school grad turned call girl under house arrest after cheating the government

Emory Law Student Lament: ‘We don’t need donuts, we need jobs.’

Being an Unemployed Ivy League Grad

Even a Yale Pedigree Could Leave One Unemployed

Discussion –how many elite school grads are in those unemployed statistics?

The adventures of an unemployed Columbia grad

Unemployed Duke grad who got a spot on the TV show “The Apprentice” couldn’t even keep that

A self portrait created in 2003 may help this struggling, 2012 Duke graduate to find her way out of poverty

Cornell Grads Find Fewer Jobs, Earn Less Than In Previous Years

“Underemployment hits double digits for schools listed below ninth-ranked University of California, Berkeley.”

From Ivied Halls to Traveling Salesman (includes a UPenn grad)

Fewer University of Chicago and Northwestern law graduates finding jobs at law firms

“It’s interesting when an alumna suggests that a professor at her law school is interfering with her ability to find employment. And it’s downright sensational when the unemployed lawyer is a Stanford Law School graduate.”

9% unemployment for recent Georgetown grads

MIT grad still unemployed after a year

MIT computer science graduate couldn’t find a job

“Six months after graduating from Princeton University, 22-year-old Kati Henderson was still looking for work.”

Georgetown graduate unemployment rises

“Unhappy anniversary: My first year of joblessness” – Recent Johns Hopkins graduate wonders what Congress is doing to help

Discussion – Unemployed or underemployed recent Top-20 college grads

Report: Many Emory Law Students Underemployed After Graduation

“8 months out, no job… I guess my Ivy League Master’s Degree was a waste of money”

Ivy League degree, no job

Life after the Ivy League: Surviving unemployment without losing all self-confidence

Google Is Not Impressed by Your Fancy Ivy League Credentials

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